Dinosaur Exintction

[Thorondor 33]

What I think my get me shot by TTL , but hey. I believe, Dinosaurs never died out. They are still alive today, maybe even abundant in some areas of the world. As I read about Dinosaurs, I see that even before a Dinosaur had been discovered and named, people were already describing them and putting them on Egyptian tombs. Some ancient stone sculptures show people co-existing with Dinosaurs. In Texas, paleontologists investigated a site where human tracks were found with Dinosaur tracks, and they were authentic. It is my thought that the Earth is only a few thousand years old. Supposedly, Dinosaurs were actually gentle creatures, one clay sculpture shows on with its tail on a persons back.

So, what do ya think?

[thetyrantlizard]

Depends how one defines 'dinosaur'. If one includes birds, as most paleontologists do, then indeed the dinosaurs didn't die out, although I hope this is not what we have in mind ;D If one is referring to 'non-avian dinosaurs', as they call it, or 'plain-jane' dinosaurs as we call them , then regrettably it is highly unlikely there are any left. It is theoretically possible that in some undiscovered island or some lush tropical jungle there may be a dinosaur or two, but they will definitely be in the small or dwarf category--i.e., it is unlikely a brachiosaurus is going to emerge from the Amazon basin. If they still exist, at best it will be a hypsilophodont or a microraptor-type dino--and if the microraptor did have feathers, as they allege, then even if it existed we'd still think of it more as a 'bird.'

I highly doubt dinosaurs were gentle creatures. All those horns, and teeth, and armour, proved that they lived in a world that is if anything far more violent than ours. For one thing, dinosaurs were rather lacking in intelligence, so they'd be like rhinos, another animal blessedly lacking in judgement--they'd charge, bite, swing their tails at the earliest perception of a threat. Think crocodile. Reptiles are notoriously unreliable critters, and I suppose dinosaurs were too.

Regarding the sculptures, etc. that were found, it is far more likely that they were creatures of myth deduced indeed from dinosaur bones but definitely not recognised as such. For instance, the protoceratops is almost certainly the source for the griffin, and dragons everywhere are easily imagined from tyrannosaur or pterosaur skulls, etc. Alas, the human tracks that were allegedly found with dinosaurs are not regarded as authentic by most paleontologists.

The Earth is probably 3.8 billion years old Without the passage of astonishing amounts of time the presence and the form of preservation of dinosaur fossils is inexplicable. We don't have actual dinosaur bone--we have impressions of bones whose original structure was preserved but its substance replaced by other minerals. This involves millions of years of sedimentation, rock formation, and pressure. Also, the earliest cave paintings clearly show the existence of bison, mammoths, etc. -- but none of t-rex or sauropods. If they did exist the same time as humans it is highly unlikely the cave dwellers wouldn't have at least left us impressions of those.

[Thorondor 33]

Here is some evidence, hopefully it will convince you:

Johann Johnston (1693-75), a doctor of medicine, published the celebrated: De Serpentibus et Draconibus in 1653. It featured many animals which are now extinct, all - according to the author,`carefully drawn from living models.

Another intriguing discovery was made near Acambaro in the Mexican state of Guanajuato. In 1925 Waldemar Jusrud, a Danish storekeeper, was on an inspection tour of his ranch, when he noticed a small ceramic figurine projecting from the side of a rut in the rain-washed road.

The artifact was unlike any he had ever seen, and probing further, "he began to uncover additional models of people and animals resembling those portrayed on the Ica stones, the GIANT SUARIANS of the Jurassic period of millions of years ago.

Julsrud eventually was able to amass 33,000 of them. "The human figures and the animals were frequently portrayed together. Some of the DINOSAUR-LIKE REPTILES appear with women in nonviolent or nonhunting situations, as though they were domestic animals or pets.

The human figures show details of dress somewhat resembling those of the ancient Middle East: laced sandals, chain mail, shields, and a variety of weapons" (Berlitz, p.195-196). Acambaro Figurines.

The Acambaro collection comprises hundreds of clay figurines that are apparently thousands of years old; however, they depict such bizarre animals and scenes that most archaeologists dismiss them as an elaborate hoax.

The collection shows humans interacting with dinosaurs and various other “monsters” such as horned men. Both Hapgood and Earl Stanley Gardner were convinced that the figurines from Acambaro were authentic ancient artifacts that indicated that men and dinosaurs had cohabited together in the recent past, and that dinosaurs had not become extinct many millions of years ago as commonly thought.

David Hatcher Childress writes a lengthy introduction concerning Acambaro, the latest testing, and other evidence of “living” dinosaurs."..From Mystery In Acambaro by Charles Hapgood. Pictures:





The enormous number of Indonesia's islands and their location in a tropical, equatorial climate has produced an unrivalled diversity of plant and animal life. With only 1% of the world's land area, Indonesia is home to over 10% of all mammal species, and 17 % of all birds.

Indonesia is over 80% water. For marine creatures it is a vast melting pot, at the influence of both the Pacific and Indian Oceans. The mingling of life from these two great oceans around thousands of islands has created the greatest diversity of marine life on Earth.

Indonesia is composed of seventeen thousand islands that stretch over five thousand miles along the equator. The Malay peninsula and Indochina are situated to the north-west, and the continent of Australia lies due south. Northward lie the Philippines and Micronesia.

The world's largest archipelago, Indonesia's constellation of islands straddles the divide between the Asian and Australian continental plates. Here is am ancient sculpture from the island, which resembles a Parasaurolophus:



Look:




You may believe Dinosaurs are dead on land, but what about the marine reptiles, which could be the Lake Monsters and Sea Serpents people are seeing? If something catastrophic did happen on Earth to wipe out the Dinosaurs (which my evidence says no), it wouldn't have affected the water beasts.

More later!

[thetyrantlizard]

The Acambaro figures are almost certainly frauds. The figures are clearly based on 19th-century representations of ichthyosaurs I've seen in some natural history books. One of them looks straight out of a Zallinger mural.

[swiftpawfatfox]

I actually think it is possible for there to be living dinos, of course they'd be of a smaller size, but very possible

actually my theory on the chupacabra is that some of the sightings may be a heterodontosaur

[richard]

the mosquitos killed dinosaurs, remember?

[bladeofthemoon]

There are places on earth where a dinosaur could hide...but live is another story...to still be around means you would need some kind of population and they would effect the enviroment around them to a point... after the Coelocanth was re-discovered...I can't totally deny anything still exists..lol